贝茨旅馆 第二季

已完结

主演:维拉·法米加,弗莱迪·海默,麦克斯·泰瑞奥

类型:美剧地区:美国语言:英语年份:2014

 剧照

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 长篇影评

 1 ) 神经病集中营

看完了最后一集还是觉得只有最后一集最靠谱……
我严重质疑前九集到底都讲了什么?

这一季从最开始四个主角都衍生出了分支:
norma认识了christine,和george滚了床单,混上了议员
norman认识了cody,滚了床单,杀了cody爸,杀了打酱油的norma哥
dylan认识了zane妹,滚了床单,和zane纠缠,最后又杀了黑老大
emma认识了卖大麻的小哥,滚了床单,跳水窒息后却不见踪影……

如果说上季结尾奸杀老师是主线的话
整个第二季用了九集半的篇幅展开了以上分支
最后关头又让所有酱油人物不了了之,死的死,消失的消失……
最后半集展现了norman精神分裂的本质。

衍生分支是美剧的一贯套路
但这剧里很多明明就是不合情理,bug丛丛好吧

感觉此剧就是卖着psycho的噱头,不过我是因为Max Thieriot才追的
估计下季应该不会追了吧……= =

 2 ) 关于【贝茨旅馆season 2】的不严肃讨论

 3 ) 关于【贝茨旅馆season 2】的不严肃讨论

 4 ) 这个剧没法看了 大麻头子这么当你问问平克曼羡慕不羡慕

当大麻头子那么容易吗?

从他在和谢尔比警官的最后一轮对射出来了以后就中了之前的一枪 我就知道这他妈干掉了一个专业警察 二号主角光环爆炸

剧中酒吧喝了两杯 Ethan不用查底细 不用熟悉 一点谨慎都没有 就带dylan去当捞金小弟了

21岁的dylan就走上了大麻路

Ethan被干掉了 我以为导演给这个角色设定的位置就是个打杂的

然后21岁的dylan就坐上去了 还给他派了一个23年经验的老饕做副手

gil被干掉了 我以为导演给这个角色设定的位置还是很位高权重的

结果21岁的dylan又坐上去了。。。

结果ford被dylan简单干掉了 我以为dylan要在ford内部来场火拼 结果他溜了?溜了 。。我以为dylan和警长二进虎穴要来高潮戏份了 天下大乱 结果警长和dylan大摇大摆进去ford的老窝不费一枪一弹把Norman救出来了

21岁的dylan没被追杀

后面我以为zane团伙要和ford的余党火拼 结果ford原来是个纸老虎 一死只有他一个人了 这个集团太没人情味了 结果zane内部还干起来了? 还是boss对拼 警长小人得志偷伤害 让其双双爆炸?

然后21岁的dylan做成了当地的毒枭头子 我真的逼了🐶了 。。。这。。背景黑二代都没他升的快啊

谢尔比 柯里昂家族都不敢这么演 杰西 平克曼都羡慕了

凭什么啊 凭什么啊!

不撸了 不撸了 还有norma的槽点太多 不吐了 光是这一项我就觉得太虚幻了

 5 ) 「Quotes」

【Season2 Episode 1】
「Welcome to the world, ladies! There are ax murderers and whores stuffed under every rug, so your kids better read up on it and get educated, because that's what life is! It's a cesspool you claw and scratch and fight to swim out of, but you never get to the top!」



【Season2 Episode 2】
『♫Vera Farmiga & Freddie Highmore — Mr. Sandman♫』

『♫Vera Farmiga — Maybe This Time♫』



【Season2 Episode 3】
「A lot of things seem like fate, and they're not.」



【Season2 Episode 4】
「There are things in life that have consequences, Norma. You're looking at one. I'm a consequence.

No, you're not. You're not a consequence. You need to be strong. You need to put this behind you.

I can't put this behind me. It's me. How can I put me behind me?」



【Season2 Episode 5】
「It's you and me, Norman. It's always been you and me, and we have to move on.」



【Season2 Episode 6】
「Go home, Mother. I'm not a little boy. You can't keep me locked up in our house for the rest of my life.」



【Season2 Episode 7】
「You saw him firsthand when he blackout. Did he hurt you? Did he hurt anyone? Was he angry or uncontrollable? No, right? He just wasn't himself, and there's no good reason that anyone should know that. 」


「You just told him, and he believed it, even though he doesn't know me? And I told you, and you know me better than anyone. And you didn't? And you still don't?」


「She said something happend to you in them. You change. They can make you do things.

What? What happens to me?

I don't know, but she knows, and you got to make her tell you, Norman, 'cause whatever it is, it scares the shit out of her.」


「You told her something happens to me when I blackout. You said I change, that I'm not myself. Who am I, mother? Who am I, and what do I do?

Norman, I love you so much. And I did say those things. And they are true. But we are not gonna talk about them. You have to trust that I am protecting you, I know you better than anyone, because I'm not gonna answer you question, and I don't want your to ever ask me again!」



【Season2 Episode 8】
「Norman, we need to talk. I missed you.

That's sort of silly. We just saw each other.

Norman, stop it.

Stop what?

I know what you're doing?

I watching a movie.

Yeah, the movie that you said you'd seen a hundred times that I wanted to go to with you.

Well, we have seen it a hundred times. I still enjoy it. Sometimes it's just nice to watch a movie alone, you know?

You're being a dick about something that isn't my fault.

I'm just watching a movie.

Movie's over.

That was childish.

Norman, stop it. Stop. I don't like you this way.

And what way is that?

All distant, like you couldn't be bothered with me.

You mean like I'm my owen person? Like we're different? Like I have secrets from you?

Don't you walk away form me!

You're being ridiculous.

Am I? Norman, please.

Oh, I see. The anger didn't work. Now the tears.

Norman, you don't understand!

No, I do understand! I understand that you're not who I thought you were. That we're not what I thought we were.

Yes, we are. Nothing has changed.

Everything has changed. You changed the rules.

What rules? What are you talking about?

I don't trust you anymore, and that changes everything. Okay, it's all up for grabs now. You no longer know who I am either, because we're different.

What? Stop it. Stop. Stop it, Norman.

It was all just a game. The game was that we were devoted to each other, and no one could ever come between us, that we loved each other more than anyone could ever love another person.

But we do love each other.

Do we? Do we really, Mother? I'm going to my room. Don't follow me. Leave me alone. You stay out here alone.」



【Season2 Episode 9】
「If I went by the letter of the law, this town would be boarded up.」

「Norman, I know you can't hear me right now, but if you ever do, just know that I love you. I love you more than anything on this earth or in heaven. Know that.」

「You want to know why you don't get me? Because you can't get me. You will never get me. You think you know what life is, That it's something you just stay on top of with your soft words and your nice summer jacket? You come from a whole world of people who are not real. You don't understand anything. You're just sleepwalking through life. You have no real troubles. You sit there in your little playhouses with your cocktails, and you judge the rest of us.」



【Season2 Episode 10】
「You're best mother in the world.

I don't know, Norman. I hope so.

You mean everything to me. I love you more than my own life.

Me too.」



「I got three tickets. I want you to come.

You bought me a ticket?

I'm sorry, Dylan. I'm so sorry, for everything. For how you were born, how I handled it. How I shut you out... it was horrible of me. And I'm so sorry.

It's not your falt, Norma. You were just a kid.

I didn't know what I was doing, but as horrible as it was, I wouldn't trade it for anything, because you're here now, and you're beautiful, and you're a miracle, that someone like you could come out of all that. And I wouldn't give you up for anything.」



「I don't want him in an institution.

He needs to be somewhere he can be protected. At least, someplace other people are protected. You need to know the truth.」



「Mother,
   I made this little bird for you.
   I will always love you an we will always be part of each other.
                                                                              Norman」



「How can you ask me to live like this?

Because I will die if you leave. I will, I'll die, Norman. We're like the same person. If you kill yourself, I'll be there one step after. We have to be together. We're supposed to be together. No matter what, I will be with you every step. I will be right by your side, and we will face this together. Please. Please. (Kiss)

All right, Mother. You win.」

 6 ) 一切都是为了活下去

假期因为Freddie Highmore 在 The Good Doctor 中炸裂的演技,去看了他主演的 Bates Motel.

正好赶上长途旅行,我几乎是连着看了20集(一共5季,50集)。据说是希区柯克电影《惊魂记》(Psycho)的前传。 还挺好看的。讲一个青少年如何变成连环杀手的。

被算作是惊悚剧,并不真的惊悚。甚至有很多温情和怜悯,以及你能看见这残暴的背后,有多少超越一个人能承受的痛苦。

所以也没办法恨起这可怜的母亲,也无法恨起这可怜的儿子(……生活就是如此令人沮丧,恨谁最后都是虚无)。

我想讲的是,在第二十集的最后,当儿子发现自己正是杀人凶手之后想要自杀(不算剧透哦,从一开始你就知道他是个变态杀人狂,故事讲述的是,他究竟如何变成这样的?),他妈妈说你不能死,你死了我也得死;于是这个听话的儿子陷入了困境:

他要活下来保护母亲,但活下来就意味着要面对自己的残暴不堪……这怎么办呢?

于是他给自己编造了一个故事,分裂出一个象征妈妈的人格,编织了一个谎言:人不是你杀的,是我杀的。你是无辜的。

(在测谎的时候,被幻想出来的妈妈说,你没有杀人,人是我杀的。)

带着这个信念,他可以继续生活下去了。后来这个妈妈的人格出来杀了很多人。

这就是精神分析的基本概念:防御机制。就是面对生活中那些我们无法处理的感受之时,我们怎么办呢?我们给自己编造一个故事,或者讲述一个道理。反正要让自己活下去,保护自己,用来处理这些非常艰难的情感体验。

所以我们看不清楚真相啊。一切都是为了活下去。

防御有很多种。今天讲一个和这个特别相关的。在Bates Motel里面呢,儿子把自己内心里面觉得自己坏的部分投射出去投射给他杀死的女生:并不是我想要背叛妈妈去和她好,是她要勾引我,她不是好女孩儿,我要杀掉她们,这样就好像将自己内心的坏的部分杀掉了,这样我就是个好人了。

可是杀人也是坏的。特别坏。我怎么能是坏人呢?我不能是坏人。所以这时候就有了“分裂”。我将自己的一部分分裂出来:是象征妈妈的那个人格杀掉的别人,人不是我杀的。我还是好的。

你看24个比利中,比利也是那个最无知、懦弱、单纯的角色。其他的人格都是出来保护他的。

当然在这个剧里面是很极端的情况。但其实回到日常生活中是一样的心理过程。举个例子:

我很不喜欢自己胖,于是(我偏执地)在我的想象中,别人一定会不喜欢我。你看这个过程,苛刻其实来自于我自己,但是我把它投射在别人身上。

这样呢,就从“我觉得自己没有价值感”,变成了:都是你们不接纳我。你们是坏人,而我才是受害者。我很委屈。

这个过程你以为是别人在欺负你,但其实是一个人的独角戏。

但如果更甚一步呢,我的意思是,如果一个人内心的煎熬感乘上100倍,这个煎熬太痛苦了。因此我要将这部分恨意分裂出去,然后把它消灭掉:我会变成一个特别正义之士,我要捍卫我胖的权利,你们统统是歧视,是对我的歧视,是对我这个人的否认,是对一个群体的伤害,是社会的不公!

我要把自己内在对于自己的仇恨,投注到别人身上。然后我要杀掉这个仇恨。

这样的状态下,一个人就再也看不见原属于自己的脆弱和恶意,统统变成对于别人的恨意。于是可以扛起“正确”的高旗,将其他人都踩在脚下。我是白莲花,而你们全是污泥。我做的一切都是“堂吉诃德”,不被人理解,你们都是坏人,而只有我是孤胆英雄。

这就是“偏执”啦。你看这里面全是“自恋”有关。令人感到难过的是,它变来变去却始终在问同一个问题:我到底值不值得你喜爱?我到底是不是个好人?

分裂从来不来自于外界,全由自己的内心而起,而为了扑灭这个分裂带来的痛苦,人可以不惜一切代价。

我常想,如果有一颗小药丸,吃了就能够满足自己的一切“自恋”的需要,我的意思是,吃了就能够确定地感受到,自己是被爱的、被接纳的,那么世界上就能够少很多“偏执妄想”……人类就能少很多悲剧,多很多幸福感吧。

(最后想说,我去看了Freddie Highmore这个小演员的一些访谈。他是伦敦人,标准英国口音,但是在他演的剧里面,都是纯正美国口音。演员真是敬业啊,了不起。)

 短评

不知道为啥现在反而迷上这部了!虽然里面的角色单独地都不喜欢,可是放在一起竟然还挺萌。。205哥哥高能暴发啊,追着远去的车连续开枪也就罢了,那车又绕回来的时候,他竟然走到路中间一动不动,对着那车开枪!那车里可是坐着枪手的好吧。哥哥你是不怕死的亡命徒?还是故意用这种方式引起大BOSS注意?

7分钟前
  • 烟雨弥漫虚弥境
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Freddie在这季的演技大增,感觉剧情节奏掌控的很棒,finale很喜欢,下一季也要精彩啊

8分钟前
  • Enjoy🌈Rachel
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看完了最后一集才恍然大悟地懷疑前九集到底都在幹什麼?自从惹祸精三母子搬来小镇后,警长每天都很心塞。不過劇情依然精彩,妈妈依然美丽,在议会上那段话演技叼炸天,但是总体节奏比上一季差了

12分钟前
  • 杉小爱|好姑娘,咱们走起来
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自从惹祸精三母子搬来小镇后,警长每天都很心塞。诺玛:我捅死一傻逼,靠跟毒枭套关系混进议会。诺曼:我做掉亲爹,睡完毒枭的女儿烧死她,帮暗恋的杀人犯少女跑路,搞死炮友老爸,精分骗过测谎仪。迪兰:我爹妈近亲结婚,我崩了个条子,撂了个毒枭,当上黑道大哥,率梁山归顺朝廷,我就是这样的汉子。

17分钟前
  • 皮皮一号
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诺玛真是美。哥哥真是太惨了全季只有一件衣服。兄弟俩都在黑化的路上越走越远。求最后 Norman不要干掉哥哥啊!第三季预订!

22分钟前
  • Wayfarer
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等好久了!!终于开始新的一季了!

23分钟前
  • 维少
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我有预感,警长将在第四季领便当……

27分钟前
  • 有咕米
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嘻嘻 最后一集诺玛kiss了诺曼,而且诺曼黑化好帅。迪伦和诺玛的关系也有改善了……追剧追得心满意足,这样足矣。期待第三季~

32分钟前
  • Ying_0111
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小正太略屌。只能说每一个神经病都是心理素质超强的战士!

33分钟前
  • 小蘑菇一朵
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看完第三集给个五星

35分钟前
  • Cut the world
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表演HOLD住一切!

38分钟前
  • 暗地妖娆
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佛莱迪最后一个眼神是全剧最赞演出。

40分钟前
  • 叩桑叩桑.不在
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我感觉我要弃剧了

44分钟前
  • PPPPPPPPPPPP酱
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比第一季好。主演表现上佳,母子之间的爱和恨,彼此依赖又相互控制占有。以及周遭的各种因素,对诺曼最后的分裂一步一步奠定基础。

47分钟前
  • 烟视媚行
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为了我爱了七年的Max Thieriot →_→ 果断点亮“力荐”的五颗星

51分钟前
  • 全声波频道D
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非常拉雜的一季,基本沒消停過。Norman被Norma一次又一次剝奪了與別人相愛的機會,誓死要把這個兒子栓在身邊,於是相互捆綁窒息。Dylan是全劇最可憐最無辜的人,他只有在對家庭有用時才是個【兒子】,連母親的愛都有許多虛假的成分,剩下的恐怕只是憐憫。Emma你少管別人家的閒事好嘛~

52分钟前
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这一部更紧凑 而且男孩的心理蜕变表现的很地道 而剧情也是水到渠成的流畅 希望下一季有更出色的表演 里面的妈妈哥哥都是大爱

56分钟前
  • 囧囧熊上线啦
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老妈你太美了!

59分钟前
  • dayday
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没有第一季精彩。个别情节会看到我有困哈哈哈哈哈,但仍然不妨碍我追她的热情。(下饭神剧!

1小时前
  • 米姐起飞
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主要看女主。其他人演技好平庸全靠脸撑。剧情,也就那样了。

1小时前
  • 🌊🌈♐
  • 还行