E.B.Taylor, A famous anthropologist and sociologist in nineteenth century, maintained that culture evolved from the simple to the complex and that all societies passed through three basic stages of development: from savagery through barbarism to civilization. But in this movie, we see the opposite law.A group of children were shipwrecked and landed on an uninhabited island. This group of children must build their own society on the island. At first, There was in order. Everyone had division of labor, everyone could express their views, everyone had food to eat. But soon, everything was broken, and the thirst for power and food made the children fall apart.
There are two core figures in the film:Ralph and Jack.Ralph has knowledge and thought of a civilized world, he is more mature than the other children.Jack is a very attractive child. He has strong organizational skills. He leads the children in hunting, and leads everyone to sing when they breaks.
It is worth noting that almost all the actors in the movie are children.Children mean ignorance, innocence and simplicity.So, children’s society is closest to Hobbes's "state of nature”.
Ralph has wisdom from the civilized world of the future.He advocated cooperation and set up a democratic system. Everyone has the right to speak and establish rules and regulations to regulate people's behavior. But the rules he made are loose, and are not guaranteed by force. It is obviously not suitable for children's society, because they are children, few people can understand it.So Ralph was seen as a idealist.In contrast, Jack's tribe is more realistic.In that case, whoever can let everyone have meat to eat and help everyone fight against wild animals will become the leader.People followed Jack because of fear or hunger.Then a hierarchy is formed.As Hobbes pointed out that society was a group of people under an authority , each individual delivered natural rights to this authority to maintain peace and resist foreign aggression.
The conflict between Ralph and Jack is mainly institutional. In the early days, Ralph made many rules and regulations. This is also the result of modern civilization. Jack is tired of these constraints and finds that the rules of civilization cannot give everyone a substantial hunting. Help, so Jack chose to give up humanity and regain the animal nature. They killed Simon, Piggy, and pursued Ralph (both children who advocate democracy in the movie). At this time, they are no different from the wolves and can no longer be Belong to the ranks of people.
My major is archaeology, in daily learning, I learned the state of ancient society.In the Paleolithic age of hundreds of thousands of years ago, people were hunting and gathering for living.The state of that time was very similar to that in the movie.People couldn't imagine what cooperation would bring to them.The only thing people want is safety and food.So the man who is the strongest with the highest hunting skills became the leader.
Another focus in the film is the monster.It is because of the fear of this ultimate evil that people finally lose their mind.People started offering sacrifices to it.But such a monster has a good appearance only (in the film, which is figurative as the corpse of a pilot), and the truth of the "paper tiger" will be discovered by uncovering its skin. Unfortunately, the children are ignorant, and they can not admit the simplest truth. Children who know the truth are either accidentally killed as "monster" (Simon)or are killed as "wild animals"(Ralph). In fact, the truth is the weapon that the rulers fear most.
This once again restore the real ancient society.The ruler establish his authority by mystifying some ordinary things and consolidate authority through a strict hierarchy.People who are not in the ruling elite have no right to know the truth.For example, in ancient Egypt, people could not see Pharaoh himself, because Pharaoh wanted people to believe he was God.The Shang Dynasty was the same.As we know, the Shang and Dynasty has a brilliant bronze civilization. In the same period, the exquisite bronzes were in sharp contrast with the rough and backward tools of production. The rulers with bronze casting technology monopolized the technology and raw material. They did not want to share the technology ,but set up a complete system for mystifying and sanctifying bronze to maintain this order.
This movie show us a battle of modern morality and primitive instinct. Violence and instinct are necessary. There is no need to talk about such superstructures as reason and democracy without satisfying the instinctive physiological needs.It takes thousands of years for people to walk into civilization, and it takes only one second to think about backing savagery.
The stupidity, blindness, and animalism that the boys concealed under the education were induced by the director.When human civilization faced the crisis of survival, it unveiled its hypocrisy. The conch symbolized the democratic order but it is so fragile in the face of violence and the desire to survive.
一、一个寓言
在一个时间不确定的未来,世界爆发了核战争,一群孩子被迫开始了荒岛求生。一开始,文明和理性占了上风,孩子们通过民主选举和科学知识,有秩序地生存和等待救援。但很快,岛上出现了一个不确定的因素——怪兽。孩子们根据对待怪兽方式的不同,分化成了两个阵营,杰克代表的本能派很快俘获了大部分人心。本能引领着孩子们将心中的兽性释放了出来,小岛局势彻底失控。最终,路过的军官结束了岛上的杀戮,拯救了这群已经遗忘了人性的孩子。
二、一个公式
仔细分析故事情节,可以发现戈尔丁通过这样一个寓言故事,为我们拉出了一个公式,证明了人性本恶的命题:共同的敌人 + 迫切的基础需求 + 主流的裹挟 = 人性恶爆发。也就是说,公式里前半部分的三个因素一旦凑齐,人性里的恶就会爆发。这三个因素都是人类基因里携带的生存本能,所以要想抵制小说里描写的这种人性恶爆发,就需要一个和本能作斗争的过程。
三、一个水印
诺贝尔文学奖为戈尔丁撰写的颁奖词,提示我们这部小说中隐藏着一个水印,那就是:《蝇王》这本小说,以故事的普遍性阐述了今日世界人类的状况。一群思想单纯的人,到一个荒凉的地方,推举出一个法理型权威,正如五月花号上的新教徒移民登陆新大陆,发出自己的《独立宣言》;20世纪希特勒的崛起,也正是如同小说里的杰克当权,凑齐了公式里的三个条件。作者通过这个水印告诉我们,蝇王一直都藏在你我的人性里,想要继续维持法理、世界和平,就要避免凑齐让人性毕露的条件,要永远警惕不受控制的人性恶卷土重来。
通往奴役之路,何其自然平坦!通往民主之路,何其曲折艰难。
关于人,人性和男性永远与生俱来的恶与杀戮。(这一版比后来1990那一版好太多太多)
虽然Ralph代表皿煮和理性,但Piggy才是智慧和光明的象征。双胞胎是纯粹和纯洁?燃鹅看完后还是不造"Lord of the Flies"啥意思……(最后成年男子出现时想到空中杀手。。
成人才看得懂的儿童片
很喜欢。
远胜于90版。
小学时候读这本书时,懵懵懂懂被里面黑暗的力量所慑服。今天重温寒意仍在,关于成人社会的政治比拟好懂许多,但更大范畴其实仍旧有东西可供挖掘。原著魅力强大。这个版本的Piggy和Ralph成功过Jack, 节奏、气氛、演绎基本高度忠于原作。慢镜头爬上Captain惊愕脸庞时,绝境逢生的
环境造就恶魔
开头不错
开头交代事件背景时使用的停格摄影颇为前卫。原著还有影片所表达的,即对于人性的无奈。即便是天真不谙世事的孩子,在他们之中亦会形成战争,有人的地方就有群体,有群体便有野蛮和专制。掌握在少数人手里的理性与民主中将会被其取缔,这个小岛里确实有野兽,他们的内心就是。人性才是最为肮脏的东西
http://v.pptv.com/show/Oa2CAGjOPnzfXaE.html
对原著的完美改编,看片过程中多年前读的原著如抽丝剥茧般被回忆起来。有几段甚至超出了我的想象,例如第一次去山顶确认“野兽”的存在那一场景。
战争大环境下 孩子也都跟着疯了
孤岛向来都是人性的试验场,在努力建立起的文明世界里成长起来的我们当然没办法感觉到大自然生存策略的残酷,但一旦一群人置身到遵从弱肉强食的丛林法则的极端环境下时会发什么现实和文学都已经无数次用血淋淋的事实证明了人是环境产物,群体意志确实存在,而为了对抗风险求生存人类什么事情都做得出。
孩子们害怕莫须有的野兽,到头来真正的“野兽”却是在人性中潜伏着的兽性。
精彩呈现原著,理性和民主匍匐在野蛮与独裁的脚下。
8/10 迫不及待想看原著小说啊
据说戈尔丁很喜欢对原著的“简单化处理”。寓言的性质过强,反而看起来有点刻意了。视听上发明了“fake tracking”,用变焦镜头造成轨道的效果。最好的一个段落是Piggy死后拉尔夫奔逃的段落的画外音处理,高度心理化。时间、服装、光的衔接性很不好。
走进文明需要千年的迂回努力,走进荒蛮只需一秒的不假思索。
民主法制和独裁专制,谁给人以最迫切的富足和最触手可及的希望,谁就会拥有海量的追随者。